How far is too far for a rifle hunter to shoot?

The question is about hunter capability and ethics. The question comes up usually on a western hunt where distances can be really far. A good hunting guide will help!

Lets talk about the good hunter. 1. The hunter should be practicing for the distances he or she expects to shoot game e.g. 250 yards or 500 yards and know the in’s and outs of bullet drop, as well as range and wind deflection as ranges get longer. Lets talk about a super nice 10 point buck at 482 yards feeding broadside. Your rifle is a .308 Winchester with a150 grain spitzer bullet exiting the barrel at 2700 fps. You set up the rifle expecting longer than normal shots so you zero at Max Point Blank Range (MPBR).

How do you set it up, assuming you are skilled enough to hold your buck fever in check?

A check for ballistic data on your bullet shows MPBR is 225 yards and the following data;

Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead
(yd) (in) (MOA) (in) (MOA) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (in) (MOA)
0 -1.5 *** 0.0 *** 2702.9 2.442 2432.9 0.000 0.0 ***
25 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.2 2648.4 2.393 2335.8 0.028 4.9 18.8
50 1.3 2.4 0.2 0.4 2594.6 2.344 2241.9 0.057 10.0 19.0
75 2.2 2.8 0.5 0.6 2541.5 2.296 2151.0 0.086 15.1 19.2
100 2.7 2.6 0.8 0.8 2489.0 2.249 2063.0 0.116 20.4 19.4
125 3.0 2.3 1.3 1.0 2437.1 2.202 1977.9 0.146 25.7 19.6
150 2.8 1.8 1.9 1.2 2385.8 2.156 1895.5 0.177 31.2 19.9
175 2.3 1.2 2.6 1.4 2335.1 2.110 1815.9 0.209 36.8 20.1
200 1.3 0.6 3.4 1.6 2285.1 2.065 1738.8 0.241 42.5 20.3
225 -0.0 -0.0 4.4 1.9 2235.6 2.020 1664.3 0.275 48.3 20.5
250 -1.8 -0.7 5.5 2.1 2186.7 1.976 1592.3 0.309 54.3 20.7
275 -4.0 -1.4 6.7 2.3 2138.4 1.932 1522.7 0.343 60.4 21.0
300 -6.7 -2.1 8.1 2.6 2090.7 1.889 1455.6 0.379 66.7 21.2
325 -9.9 -2.9 9.6 2.8 2043.6 1.847 1390.7 0.415 73.0 21.5
350 -13.7 -3.7 11.2 3.1 1997.1 1.805 1328.2 0.452 79.6 21.7
375 -17.9 -4.6 13.0 3.3 1951.3 1.763 1268.0 0.490 86.3 22.0
400 -22.8 -5.4 15.0 3.6 1906.1 1.722 1209.9 0.529 93.1 22.2
425 -28.2 -6.3 17.1 3.8 1861.6 1.682 1154.1 0.569 100.1 22.5
450 -34.3 -7.3 19.4 4.1 1817.8 1.643 1100.4 0.610 107.3 22.8
475 -41.0 -8.2 21.9 4.4 1774.7 1.604 1048.8 0.651 114.6 23.0
500 -48.4 -9.2 24.5 4.7 1732.3 1.565 999.3 0.694 122.2 23.3
  1. Is there enough bullet energy to take this 482 yard shot ethically? 1000 ft-lbs is Marginal but ok according to many sources.
  2. Is the bullet traveling fast enough to mushroom correctly? Not really well.

3. Where do you aim?  If the wind is blowing parallel with the deer at say 10 mph across his chest toward his rear? You guestimate 22 inches of wind deflection makes you aim off the deer’s body. Can you still ethically shoot? Or should you try to close the distance?

Close the distance is the smart and correct answer? The bullet will likely not mushroom correctly at that marginal speed and you have no point of aim at 22 inches off the target, and bullet energy is marginal. You do risk wounding the deer.

Ok we are still hunting that same deer and close the distance to 275 yards (range finder) and he still does not see us. The bullet is traveling at over 2000fps, good mushrooming speed and energy, but will be off target by 6.7 inches. Can you compensate and aim 6.7 inches left or right? Yes! Bullet drop is 1.4  inches low. I would not  try to compensate for 1.4 inch drop, your fine.  Do you have a good rest for your rifle? Yes, my backpack, if I lay prone.  If you are rock solid on the deer with crosshairs and adjusted for wind deflection, then I would take the shot. The flight time is just over a third of a second at that range.

Ok, after that exercise, is that what you do when shooting long distances? Think about speed, drop, energy? If so then you are giving the deer your best to ethically take him.

A wise hunter who shoots longer ranges, should have made these calculations for limitations before hand and practiced for such a shot. I have  made a table to tape to my rifle in some cases. The JBM data indicates that  at 325-350 yards this rifle/bullet combo has reached its limit on speed and energy and that wind deflection at 90 degrees is 9 to 11 inches left/ right. And bullet drop is 10 inches low. The hunter must have skill to compensate. We didn’t discuss things such as temperature and altitude and shooting angle either. Lots to think about!

I used JBM Ballistics Trajectory to get this data. Try it!

https://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi

Good Hunting!

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About Ed Hale

I am an avid hunter with rifle and Bow and have been hunting for more than 50 years. I have taken big game such as whitetail deer, red deer, elk, Moose and African Plains game such as Kudu, Gemsbok, Springbok, Blesbok, and Impala and wrote an ebook entitled African Safari -Rifle and Bow and Arrow on how to prepare for a first safari. Ed is a serious cartridge reloader and ballistics student. He has earned two degrees in science and has written hundreds of outdoor article on hunting with both bow and rifle.