6.5 Creedmoor vs 6.5×284 -Updated

Both rounds are amazingly accurate. In studying those who shoot 1000 yds in Competition they say that the 6.5×284 (6.5 Super) will beat the 6.5 Creedmoor hands down in speed. Speed is needed to improve crosswind bullseyes. The downside is that the 6.5×284 is a hotter bullet and will burn barrels at a much faster rate than the 6.5 Creedmoor. Not a huge downside if you have the funds for new barrels. Some research finds that Rich DeSimone, holder of the world record 1.564 inch 5 shot group at 1000 yards, says- he gave some opinion and tips. More in the Accurate Shooter article below.

  1. “Opinion – Rich suggests use moly-coated bullets to reduce friction and longer barrel life.”
  2. “Invest in a Hawkeye bore scope to ensure a really clean barrel and that you understand the throat condition.” says DeSimone
  3. Rich reloads and does his own machining.

http://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek050/

The upside is that at 1000 yards those that compete say the 6.5×284 is a winner.

Recoil and hunting – The 6.5 Creedmoor is easy on the shoulder, easy on barrels and can kill anything the 6.5×284 can at reasonable ranges.

Below is a chuckhawkes article comparison by Elevation of the 2 cartridges.

http://chuckhawks.com/compared_65-284_65creedmoor_F-Class.htm

Winning 1000 yd competitions requires that you can purchase and have a ready back up barrel.

Where the 6.5 Creedmoor shines is mid range like 600 yards, barrels live longer, less recoil, less powder.

From a Hunting standpoint the 6.5×284 delivers more energy at longer ranges but will always be a CXP3 round like the 6.5 Creedmoor.

Accordingly, if I was a 1000 yd Competitor choosing between the two cartridges, I would choose the 6.5x 284 and have a back up barrel. If a mid range competitor use the 6.5 Creedmoor. For hunting either will do the job but the Creedmoor has less recoil thus accuracy is often better due to less recoil.

Good Shooting!

 

Spring is not far off. NH Rifleman Magazine will be testing and writing soon.

I am beginning to look at new rifles to test. My main objective is accuracy, reliability and affordability. Along with that is to test scopes, spotting scopes, rangefinders and bullets/cartridges and reloading. I also want to look at backpacks this year for those who want a pack to carry your rifle and meat out of the field and forest. And talk about hunts and bucket lists and cooking in the field. Should be great fun!

Carving My Russian Boar at Home? How’s it Going? by Ed Hale

If you have butchered your own game then making the jump to a large skinned and quartered wild boar is just simply more to cut-up but you need refrigerator space or a very cold garage to store meat while cutting.

I have stored the quarters of meat in my cooler in very cold February winter garage at around 15 to 20 degrees F until I got to them to cut up. Below are the ribs laying on the large rear leg roasts. Look at the fat on the base of the ribs!

I have had the meat home for one week and have literally just one piece left to cut up, a rear leg,and I might just leave it whole and freeze it. Below my LEM Grinder.

I have created nearly 100 pounds of vacuum sealed meat such as Chops, Stew meat, Roasts, Steaks, Boar Burger, Breakfast Sausage, Italian Sweet Sausage, Chorizo Sausage, and mild Apple and Leek Sausage.

I used the book “Home Sausage Making” 3rd Edition by Susan Mahnke Peery and Charles G. Reavis by Storey Puiblishing. It is a simple straight forward book. I like it!

https://www.amazon.com/Home-Sausage-Making-How-Techniques/dp/158017471X 

below breakfast sausage patties on left, Italian sausage links on right and coarse grind meat below.

I have grilled a few chops, they are soooo good and the sausage is fantastic!.

 

Made a boar stew that was so good that I shared it only with my family.

 

My wife loves the Apple and Leek sausage perhaps the most but the breakfast sausage patties are fabulous too. Much of the sausage I did in 2 pound increments so if I liked it, could make more or didn’t like it, I lost 2 pounds meat in the test.

My boar burger is rough ground and works “the nuts” in my Chili Recipe. Honestly, I have been a hunter for over 50 years and this Russian Boar, a female, is the best eating game animal I have ever experienced so I am taking care to vacuum seal every morsel.

I have yet to use any tenderizer methods on this meat! Wow!!

Good Hunting and Good Eating!

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Skinner Bog Hunt Rating

It is important to give a rating or report card on my Skinner Bog Hunt

Accommodation Grade: A+

Shower Available? Yes

Bathroom part of my room. A+

Food and Beverage: Full Service: A+

Guide Service by Owner: A+

Animals I desired to hunt: A+

Helpful to the Customer: A+

Would I go again? Yes Absolutely

Game quality? A+

Hunt Value? A+

This is a first rate outfit with Jeremy at the helm!

An Honest Hunt! The Russian boar meat is fabulous!!

 

 

Prep for Boar Sausage Buscuits and Wild Game Sausage and More

Here below these Cabela’s hunter/chef’s are making wild boar camp biscuits and gravy, a hunters breakfast, with these sausage seasoning kits as well as other cures and seasonings to make breakfast sausage patties or links.

 

 

Below is breakfast sausage from Elk meat with pork shoulder for the fat from an online vendor. I just received 5 lbs of Elk from close friend to make sausage with so I will mix with my boar meat and  more fatty pork. Wow!

 

More Elk or Venison Sausage.

 

 

Winter Hunting in Snow? Get some Winter Camo!

For those hunter souls that want to stalk game in the dead of winter long after deer season, it is important to know that smell, sound of footsteps in snow, and movement that has contrast (dark against a light background are still the biggest give-a-ways.

 

Contrast/Movement

This is a big one that you can equalize by wearing Snow Camo that blends your silhouette with a snowy backdrop. I intend to hunt Russian Boar in February and am giving lots of thought to my preparation.

I just purchase Seclusion 3D winter camo from Cabela’s. It is on Sale. I purchased a jacket that can go over my hunt jacket and a head mask. I expect that it will help to minimize my taller contrast in the snow. I also bought snow camo insulated gloves from eBay. I could have purchased pants or bib overalls but it was too much for my budget to add for now.

Check it out!

Good Hunting!

 

Firing Pin Issues in Cold Weather Hunting?

If the temperature is very cold, like in the teens or less, you can experience firing pin issues if you are using a wet lubricant. It is best to go dry and use powdered graphite

like Brownells below. And dry fire your rifle on occasion before and during the hunt to keep that pin floating.

New Hampshire Rifleman Magazine winning Ruger, Hornady and Leupold Combination by Ed Hale

New Hampshire Rifleman’s winning combination is the Ruger American – Predator Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor winning Hornady bullet and winning Leupold VX-6 3-18x 44mm CDS scope.

The Rifle

The rifle that won my value driven pocket book is the Ruger American for under $400 dollars yet shoot sub-Minute of Angle at 100 yards as my Test Rifle. Not long ago it took a few thousand dollars to shoot groups like that. Adjustable Trigger, floating barrel and so much more that you have to read the spec sheet below. http://ruger.com/products/americanRiflePredator/specSheets/6973.html

In particular I have tested two of the rifles, one in 243 Winchester and the other in 6.5mm Creedmoor in the Predator series. Both shot sub MOA out of the box and both were in the $400 price range. Exceptional performance from these rifles was uncanny. I bought them both but later sold the .243 as recoil was similar to the 6.5 Creedmoor and it delivered more energy punch hands down. Wow! Accuracy? We got it!

The Cartridge

The 6.5 Creedmoor Cartridge is just slightly smaller than the .308 Winchester yet with a 143 grain bullet at 1000 yards it beats the long standing military champ .308 or 7.62 NATO in both trajectory and wind deflection. As a first time 1000 yard shooter, I was able to break 8 inch balloons at 1000 yards. If you couple that with an Extremely Low Drag Bullet you have a fabulous combo for Target, as that was the original intent of the cartridge, but what about Hunting? The 6.5mm Creedmoor can handle a wider array of big game bullet weights than the 6mm/243 Winchester. I suspect the 6.5 will in time overshadow the 6mm at least as a big game hunting round as it delivers a bullet in the .270 Winchester class with the mild recoil of a 6mm. Of course bullet velocities are a bit slower. The .270 Winchester is still a faster bullet as is the 7mm Remington Magnum but at a higher cost of recoil as well.

The Bullet

Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X™ in 143 grain with new Heat Shield™ Tips Patent Pending with AMP® Advanced Manufacturing Process. Mushroom design as low as 1800 fps and stays together out of the barrel. ACCURATE-DEADLY-DEPENDABLE

In testing by Hornady, the Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X™ Extremely Low Drag Bullet has a very impressive G1 Ballistic Coefficient of .625/ G7 BC .315 for hunting at any distance within the delivered Energy Envelope for the game hunted such as 1000 ft-lb for deer 1500 ft-lb for Elk size game. Click the video below.

 

The Target

 

The Scope

Leupold VX-6 3-18x44mm Side Focus CDS see the VX-6 video below

 

The most expensive item was the scope. The VX-6 is unparalleled in quality and zoom and has dual erector springs that are vital in a far off hunt. This scope raises the bar in optical quality. You can spend more, but you will likely not get more dollar for dollar.  It is a scope for all time, near or far it is my best scope to date. It’s versatility, reliability was nearly unimaginable just a few years back.  Retail $850 to $1430 and worth every penny. Leupold Scopes are All American Made!

A perfect 10 combination for a big game hunter for deer, elk and African Plains game with low recoil. And my grandkids can shoot it!

Put a Ruger American-Predator Rifle Combo under your Christmas tree!

Good Hunting!

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